Ambrosia Community
Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: 中國電力 on October 13, 2013, 05:36:33 pm
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Admin: dontodo pew pew
Server: dd2
Date & Time: 18 :10
Complaint: this admin ban me yesterday because i was playing in the winner team stupid raison and know he add me oin the ban list'' raison :7 ''
Other Evidence (screenshots, demos...): this is my unbann request it was accepted + ss
this admin don t deserve to be admin in ambrosia server i want he get demoted
http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=21464.0
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That's why he banned you last time,im sure u joined winner team when u were getting pwned
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Here it is.
The reason I banned u because of winning team joining. U were terrorist the whole time. U got killed the whole time so u decided to get CT. I putted u back in terrorist team 3 times and also warned u if u do it again i will temp ban u. U did not listen. thats why i banned u 60 minutes.
BUT then u started to call me names big times. Your ban has been extended to 10 days.
Enjoy. Bye
Enough said.
Bye.
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Here it is.
The reason I banned u because of winning team joining. U were terrorist the whole time. U got killed the whole time so u decided to get CT. I putted u back in terrorist team 3 times and also warned u if u do it again i will temp ban u. U did not listen. thats why i banned u 60 minutes.
BUT then u started to call me names big times. Your ban has been extended to 10 days.
Enjoy. Bye
U mean he banevaded or what ???
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Here it is.
The reason I banned u because of winning team joining. U were terrorist the whole time. U got killed the whole time so u decided to get CT. I putted u back in terrorist team 3 times and also warned u if u do it again i will temp ban u. U did not listen. thats why i banned u 60 minutes.
BUT then u started to call me names big times. Your ban has been extended to 10 days.
Enjoy. Bye
U mean he banevaded or what ???
U got it there Fred.
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someone make action abt this
he think he is god !!!
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someone make action abt this
he think he is god !!!
Yes, the god of knowing Rules.
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SHOW ME PROOF OF BAD THINGS I SAID FROM LOGS. LIAR
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U will get denied coz u got time ban and u banevaded
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I disagree on your ban todo. Since I didn't find this post of yours in his unban request I will reply here. But aint about reporting you.
If he is to bad to kill in the team which is loosing, then he joins the other team, its fully his right to do. Actually it's even good. Means, you can transferer somone whos scoring from the wining team to his team.
Like u are doing, we will just loose players since they will never get to score. ..
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I disagree on your ban todo. Since I didn't find this post of yours in his unban request I will reply here. But aint about reporting you.
If he is to bad to kill in the team which is loosing, then he joins the other team, its fully his right to do. Actually it's even good. Means, you can transferer somone whos scoring from the wining team to his team.
Like u are doing, we will just loose players since they will never get to score. ..
Fisu don't get me wrong, but one rule which is for admins is that : Admins have to balance teams. So I think Todo was trying to balance teams, and this guy was just transferring himself although he was warned/kicked, then ofcourse comes the other punishment ban for those who don't understand any of the admins words. :)
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Ofc mate, it's a rule, but u have to understand the player too not just the admin..
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U will get denied coz u got time ban and u banevaded
listen !! i m not banevaded u understand that mr dontodo is unfair he use his power on me
he banned me 60 mn then i make unbann request and it s accepted !!!!!
today he saw me on the server and ban me permently raison : EXtend my ban 10 days
this is fair he think he is god
high stuff accept my unbann request proof :http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=21464.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=21464.0)and the admin won t and extend my ban !!!!! what héll is going on in heeree ambrosia became like that :-[ :-[
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balance the teams is important thing, to everybody enjoy the gaming
obvs, we can not "force" to anybody to stay in 1 team. we can suggest them to switch team for balance the game
anyways, if the admin warned you, and you ignored him, he was right giving u a temporal ban
next time, when u dont agree with 1 admin, just take proofs and come here to report, but never challenge an admin again
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I understand your confusion, Altho your unban request topic is moved to the unbanned section.
You are still NOT unbanned. You were given a timed ban and someone must have moved the topic to the wrong section.
So the second ban for ban evading isnt ur fault nor Todo's fault.
I personally hate wtj'ers and if im not mistaken Todo warned u several times. So imho I dont think he acted wrong by punishing you.
I will check the logs for evidence of your swearing and based on that make my final decision.
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Usually people share the logs if someone is swearin..Example in my case that happened often, manager shared in my clan board my swearing..Did I ask him to do so? If I would make unban in first place then I would wanna see my logs....:D
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Usually people share the logs if someone is swearin..Example in my case that happened often, manager shared in my clan board my swearing..Did I ask him to do so? If I would make unban in first place then I would wanna see my logs....:D
BUTTON LIKE PLEASEEEEEE
OT: Your ban should get extended more.. Your behaviour sucks "shame on u !!!" : http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=21521.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=21521.0)
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Rules are rules for everyone here, if there is a rule in ambrosia wich says clearly that a transfered player cant change the team if the admin want so the player is wrong , if it is not the case so the admin is wrong
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U are all trying to make your own rules.
The following rule is stated:
- Players must at all times must listen to commands and requests from Ambrosian Admins.
This to be found in http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=34.msg273215#new (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=34.msg273215#new)
Proof is provided at grmbl
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That rule you quoted is used for reasonable grounds. My view of it is, there is no rule stating one should join loser team if they are the main winner on the opposite team.
There are no unwritten rules in Ambrosia; if a rule is not published it is not a rule. Rules are carefully considered and decided upon and under no circumstances should you impose a rule that is not official.
I think people should freely choose what team they want to play on unless they were automatically transferred by server but then who says they must stay there? If I play a game, I want to play where I feel most comfortable at the end of the day, where I want to play... It should be a player choice.
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That rule you quoted is used for reasonable grounds. My view of it is, there is no rule stating one should join loser team if they are the main winner on the opposite team.
There are no unwritten rules in Ambrosia; if a rule is not published it is not a rule. Rules are carefully considered and decided upon and under no circumstances should you impose a rule that is not official.
I think people should freely choose what team they want to play on unless they were automatically transferred by server but then who says they must stay there? If I play a game, I want to play where I feel most comfortable at the end of the day, where I want to play... It should be a player choice.
That's what I was trieng to explain. Players have alsow the right to choose, or they will just leave and search for other server..
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Let's just not loose the sense of the game. There are unwritten rules - yes. There are wtjers - yes. There was a confusion with your unban - yes.
To make a ceasefire I just advice to unban the player by exchange of dropping the case. That would lead the case into players favour but you must understand that todo were not seeking for a personal revenge, just a plain simple correcting a game as it is needed sometimes. If the logs will bring up any evidence against the player we could continue with a something else.
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i m unbannnnnned !!!! by high stuff go and to unban section and u will find my application
dontodo don t respect rules !!! he ban me 60 mn and when he know that i m unbanned he extend my ban 10 days !!! this is not legal
dontodo don t respect decision of high stuff h must be punished for his action against me !!!
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i m unbannnnnned !!!! by high stuff go and to unban section and u will find my application
dontodo don t respect rules !!! he ban me 60 mn and when he know that i m unbanned he extend my ban 10 days !!! this is not legal
dontodo don t respect decision of high stuff h must be punished for his action against me !!!
U are seriously someone with 2 faces here.
I told u u are not unbanned on server. U started talking to me on steam stating this:
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: dontodo let me play please
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: :)
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: i have time
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: i have no shool today
DonTodo #: i cant let u keep playing. Its against the rules.
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: please
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: :((((
china Power -沉默de悲剧-: ambrosia is best server of cs
This is rather pissing me off.
I can ban u PERM for evading right now.
Banned u twice already.
This was after your first ban.
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As clearly u cant find it in logs because u dont talk in server because of that.
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I think the ban is down to personal opinion although there is no rule stated for joining winning team its very fustrating to see one player always moving with the winning team. This is very very different to players who always like to play on one particular side e.g. i ALWAYS play as CT unless its full regardless of score.
However, i admit that i do dislike people who like to follow the winning team just to get there frags up.
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That rule you quoted is used for reasonable grounds. My view of it is, there is no rule stating one should join loser team if they are the main winner on the opposite team.
There are no unwritten rules in Ambrosia; if a rule is not published it is not a rule. Rules are carefully considered and decided upon and under no circumstances should you impose a rule that is not official.
I think people should freely choose what team they want to play on unless they were automatically transferred by server but then who says they must stay there? If I play a game, I want to play where I feel most comfortable at the end of the day, where I want to play... It should be a player choice.
If a good player [someone who has the skills to make the difference in the balance of a team] always joins the winning team then I will make sure this isn't always the case. Especially if he blatantly leaves the losing team to join the winning team. This way the game gets more imba.
So it's not entirely a players choice imo.
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It's a public server... It's not my problem if one were to join winning or loosing team... I would want to play in the team I want.
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I do agree with Raven aswell.
All players have the right to join anytime to the team they wish as they are in server to have fun and play.
Admins can transfer someone for balance but then again if the player do not wish and returns back its not something that we can punish for the player.
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As someone that moderates somewhere else, I always make sure to change team myself to balance the teams and if still unbalanced, I ask one of the players if he'd be willing to. You can't really force someone to and even if the rules go in your favor as an admin it's often annoying for someone to be forced against his will. If that player doesn't want to then ask someone else or find another way, banning him isn't a solution in this case. Rule 11. of DD2 is to have fun, yet through enforcing into a player an unwritten rule you are basically ruining the mood and creating an argument that shouldn't have existed in the first place.
Any proof of the "said flaming" aside from the Steam logs by the way ? I'm surprised they weren't brought up seeing how it was the reason for "extending the ban".
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Locked untill the dawn will come.
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Guys come on unban him already.
I dont think it matters what Dontodo and ChinaPower spoke on steam, thats their own personal business. As far as ambrosia servers are concerned, China Power has been banned unfairly for 10 days, and I dont see why we should make him wait the entire 10 days for doing something (wtj) which is not even against the rules. Poor guy just wants to play, he can barely speak english and isnt interested in any politics.
Cheers.
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Why is everyone talking about ban/unban? This is a complaint, not an unban request.
But anyhow, here we go.
wtj isnt punishable sinces there are no rules regarding this subject its more like an unwritten rule. We mostly rely on the players game ethics. If anyone decides to be unethical thats his choise, its like planting B when ur playing 2 vs 2. A Simple solution good be an auto balance pluging, but speaking from experience they tend to suck.
So the timed ban was a bit harsh taking in consideration that the player didnt break any written rules. what happened after that on Steam is outside this community, just block the player.
Altho you did banevade and misbehaved on steam I see no reason to keep you banned, I hope the unban panel will take my advice in consideration.
I dont see any reason for a hard punishment, the admin acted as a human being and there is nothing wrong with that. See this as a warning and dont let it happen in the future.
Solved
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Don't mean to intrude but I would like to add some info which relates to this issue. Discussed here: http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=17722.0 (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=17722.0)
It was established long ago that every player has the right to choose whichever team they want to play in..