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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: Jack.cN on November 22, 2011, 04:30:32 pm
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Lets see, me and him was playing in DM. And this "WANT" was joined was a few second, then I saw "ADMIN AMBROSIA-ADMIN|xenoke!: ban WANT permanently". I asked him what for in admin chat. But he didn't answer me.
I think is a abuse because he didn't went to spec and banned him permanently, is that even fair?
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You got nothing else to do?? Then bringing admins down? Wanne see you once being admin! And he was an obvious aimbotter! If u can do better, take my place, then i will go!
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jack you again? lol... but thanks for reporting this :)
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guys you should work as a team
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Lets see, me and him was playing in DM. And this "WANT" was joined was a few second, then I saw "ADMIN AMBROSIA-ADMIN|xenoke!: ban WANT permanently". I asked him what for in admin chat. But he didn't answer me.
I think is a abuse because he didn't went to spec and banned him permanently, is that even fair?
He was playing already 5 or 10 minutes
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Respect to you jack.
But in defence of xenoke, he is a good admin. And he is on all servers a LOT.
I know he should have got a demo. I have seen MANY admins who are not doing their job correctly, but have never reported and never would tbh.
We should be working as a team at the end of the day ;)
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that is true kelly, but what is a team while some admins dont record demos? i can name a few who dont record things always.
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kheb 1000 demo's in men cstrike map? jonge wat willen jullie eigelijk? Ik zit altijd alleen op de server! Als ik alleen maar nodig ben om te werken en niet meer kan spelen dan hoeft het ook niet meer hoor! Ik doe men best om de servers zo cheatvrij te houden als mogelijk en altijd word ik onderuit gehaald! Leuk is toch iets anders! Betere check je wie er wel op server zit en hoelang in plaats van mensen altijd maar te verwijten dat zij tenminste hun werk doen! Zo simpel is het!
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when i was admin on public aimbotters, speedhack straight ban if its obvious no demo, no spectating maybe a few seconds.
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kheb 1000 demo's in men cstrike map? jonge wat willen jullie eigelijk? Ik zit altijd alleen op de server! Als ik alleen maar nodig ben om te werken en niet meer kan spelen dan hoeft het ook niet meer hoor! Ik doe men best om de servers zo cheatvrij te houden als mogelijk en altijd word ik onderuit gehaald! Leuk is toch iets anders! Betere check je wie er wel op server zit en hoelang in plaats van mensen altijd maar te verwijten dat zij tenminste hun werk doen! Zo simpel is het!
lees ff me post opnieuw, zie je dat ik iets over jou zeg ik zei dat ik het eens was met kelly over je activity?
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reread my post and see if i pointed a finger to you. i said i was with kelly about ur activity?
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Well fair enough.
Btw xenoke what else would I do when I playing on the server? btw "WANT" score was like 10 something when I'm on.
Also I suggest you talk with you language in Private and not in my topic thank you.
Is just rude because most of us don't understand.
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Wasn't there a rule English only on the forum and in game? My sincere apologies if that is not valid any more, but Deniz and Xenoke, may I ask to use English only? Thanks :)
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Wasn't there a rule English only on the forum and in game? My sincere apologies if that is not valid any more, but Deniz and Xenoke, may I ask to use English only? Thanks :)
i translated it perfectly fine, i responded to his dutch in dutch with a translation underneath
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I suppose so :)
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xenoke let niet op hem! doe gewoon je werk :)
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xenoke do not listen to him! just do your work! :) and kelly you always wise words! > respect< wanted to see a RL admin? see kelly :)
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I think Jack is right here, you must record demo's for every player, even if you don't go to spectators you still gotta record it, it won't take long. And yes I know it's pain in the butt, but that's what you signed up for :)
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kheb 1000 demo's in men cstrike map? jonge wat willen jullie eigelijk? Ik zit altijd alleen op de server! Als ik alleen maar nodig ben om te werken en niet meer kan spelen dan hoeft het ook niet meer hoor! Ik doe men best om de servers zo cheatvrij te houden als mogelijk en altijd word ik onderuit gehaald! Leuk is toch iets anders! Betere check je wie er wel op server zit en hoelang in plaats van mensen altijd maar te verwijten dat zij tenminste hun werk doen! Zo simpel is het!
Huh??? LOL
Sometimes I wake up in the early hours and I just can't sleep. So I have a look in HLSW to see what condition the servers are in. I see D2 with 15 players, 7 of those in spec all because there are 3 hackers having a good old time. So i join and ban them outright. No demo.
Why?? Because I think to myself:
1. I don't HAVE to join the server at 4am to do this do I?
2. I think the owners would rather have a full server with happy players that an empty one with hackers running riot.
3. I ban and if by some miracle the idiot using the aimbot DOES make a complaint / unban request, please unban it's no biggie.
Please feel free to remove my admin rights.
If I made a complaint about every admin I have seen abusing their rights... This particular section would be FULL and the head admins would be busy ;)
None of us are angels are we?
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Kelly,
How about just say that you ware not able and next time demo them :/
I don't plan to lose a great admin as yourself (sorry for off-topic)
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99.999% of the time i record. i have gigs of demos :)
The above was just an example of the very rare occurrence of no demo.
I can understand xenoke's reasons ln this instance.
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This should be opened in admin section only. Whatever happens any disagreement between admins should not be open for everyone to see, we have enough to deal with. I know demo should be always taken and I do so, but sometimes it is such an obvious aimer that you dont need. I have done this, someone speeding and aiming like crazy I dont waste time on a demo. Xenoke is a good player and one of the experienced and good admins.
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This should be opened in admin section only. Whatever happens any disagreement between admins should not be open for everyone to see, we have enough to deal with. I know demo should be always taken and I do so, but sometimes it is such an obvious aimer that you dont need. I have done this, someone speeding and aiming like crazy I dont waste time on a demo. Xenoke is a good player and one of the experienced and good admins.
1+ you don't need demo when someone speedhacking , aimbot obvious only record when its a regular player.
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IF any of you kept up to date with forum rules and have been active for a while here, you would know there have been several cases of people making unban requests and the admin who made the ban then saying "oh it wass obvious wallhack/speedhack/aimbot so i didnt record"
What are we supposed to do in this case? People make mistakes, this is an online community for fun and we need to be fair, unfortunately there are cases where we accept admins who are either not completely capable and make mistakes judging a player, or abuse their powers/flame and ban for the wrong reasons. SO we can't just "trust" every admin who says this.
I repeat again: ALWAYS RECORD A DEMO!
Even if its damn obvious - all this means is that your demo will be 10 seconds long, because thats as long as you need for such an obvious cheater. If you don't have the patience and presence of mind to stay cool and wait an extra 10 seconds to get a demo then you shouldn't be an admin.
Two of the most important qualities we look for in admins are Patience, and Respect (for all players - or at least the decency to remain civil in your interactions).
No excuses please. If you want to take the risk and ban without demo's for obvious cheaters then go ahead, but the one time they decide to make an unban request and you don't have a demo for this reason, you need to face the consequences for the risk you took.
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Whatever!
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Spoken to Xenoke on this and notified him of the reasons behind demo even if its a 2 second one. However, i will update this thread once i have spoken to Shark/Alex since Alex may have told admins another rule which i have only just found out.
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Resolved