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Title: [Archived] CTs Creativity
Post by: MonsteR on June 02, 2013, 09:01:20 pm
 
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JB Parliament: New Idea





We all want the JB server to be more active and become better but for that we need more creative CTs. So after a long discusion with the JB Parliament members we took a decision about the idea which Ninja suggested.



The idea was:

At the end of every map the online admin will make a vote about the most creative CT. Players in the server will vote and the winner of the vote will get 40 points.



   The point of this is to make the CTs become more crative and make more funny days which will help the server activty and popularity as people will enjoy playing in it much more.We know that you have friends and you will vote for them or you will just randomly press any botton.That is why i would like to ask you if you can please vote for the CT which really deserves to win this vote, dont vote for someone just because he is your friend or because you are too lazy to read the vote and just randomly press but vote for the best CT.That way you will help the server because when someone wins the vote and wins 40 points he will try to be as creative as possible next map so he can win 40 more.


   I hope you enjoy this new method and will become as creative as possible so we can make this server a better place.




About admins:

   You guys will have to make the vote which must look like this: amx_vote "Who was the most creative CT" Monster Ninja Artty Ray
 IF there are more then 4 CTs you will have to chose 4 which in your oppinion were the most creative from the CT team.
Admins dont abuse this and dont put your friends in the vote if they dont really deserve it.
Also you guys dont take part in the vote as we all know you are creative and you will win
the vote easyly, also players will just vote for you because you are an admin.
If there is just 1 CT then he doesnt get any points. Also if for example
there are only admins in the CT team and 1 player then no one gets
but if there are 2 players and few admins then the vote should be
for this 2 players only.

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   Players dont beg the admins to put you in th vote. They will decide who to put. If you beg them to be in the vote they are allowed to punish you kick/quit/ban.



  Everyone do you best as CT so you can win this prize and make our server more enjoyable!



   I will leave this topic opened so i can see what is your opinion about this idea. Also this system is on trial periode for 1 week if it sint working properly it will be removed. If you have anything to add/suggest about the idea feel free to do it.





Regards,
JB Parliament

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Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Supplicium# on June 02, 2013, 09:05:16 pm
If there was any admin online we will do that :D
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Ray on June 02, 2013, 09:05:34 pm
40 points ?? We said 35 grrr
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: 'PL' on June 02, 2013, 09:06:33 pm
This can be easily abused and conflicted.
-Just my opinion.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: ~RoN on June 02, 2013, 09:13:28 pm
this is a great idea. Hope that it will work so we can do this every week or month ^^
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Killer Bee! on June 02, 2013, 09:52:57 pm
first winner karimoo

Im mad..i dont have a mic to be ct...
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Cepheus on June 02, 2013, 10:33:14 pm
Quote from: *PL* on June 02, 2013, 09:06:33 pm
This can be easily abused and conflicted.
-Just my opinion.

I agree with replica. Maybe if you reduce the points to 20 or 30.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 10:37:30 pm
good idea , how will the cts get the points?
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: terraboN on June 02, 2013, 10:57:27 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 10:37:30 pm
good idea , how will the cts get the points?

I think the admins are meant to give the points.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 11:14:00 pm
Quote from: terraboN on June 02, 2013, 10:57:27 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 10:37:30 pm
good idea , how will the cts get the points?

I think the admins are meant to give the points.
as far as i know , normal admins dont have acces to that command. and if it is possible for admins to give points , you should check logs for admins abusing that command
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Darki on June 03, 2013, 07:25:32 am
I like the idea of giving points to the most creative ct every map  :D but those points will start conflicts, example ( random player) "I was the most creative one" "No i was..." , and after finishing the vote the other player that was also ct might rage and swear. Reduce the points maybe it might reduce the conflicts also!
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Jason Bourne on June 03, 2013, 12:53:15 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 11:14:00 pm
Quote from: terraboN on June 02, 2013, 10:57:27 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 10:37:30 pm
good idea , how will the cts get the points?

I think the admins are meant to give the points.
as far as i know , normal admins dont have acces to that command. and if it is possible for admins to give points , you should check logs for admins abusing that command
We do, Most don't know how though
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 03, 2013, 03:33:53 pm
Quote from: Jason Bourne on June 03, 2013, 12:53:15 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 11:14:00 pm
Quote from: terraboN on June 02, 2013, 10:57:27 pm
Quote from: Eddy Wall-e on June 02, 2013, 10:37:30 pm
good idea , how will the cts get the points?

I think the admins are meant to give the points.
as far as i know , normal admins dont have acces to that command. and if it is possible for admins to give points , you should check logs for admins abusing that command
We do, Most don't know how though
amx_money but it never worked
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: MonsteR on June 03, 2013, 03:43:53 pm
The command is amx_give_points monster 40 to give me 40 points. So this system is in action and i would like all the admin to read the topic and start doing that is said in it. If you abuse the points command you will get a harsh punishment.



Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 03, 2013, 04:00:35 pm
i talked to sami and popay in server yesterday, they refused to do the vote. sami : its lame :D
popay : if the ct gets points , i would encourage the person to go T and use the shops instaid of working on his skills.


Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: BloodyPro on June 03, 2013, 04:51:55 pm
it happended smth bad today with me  about this
there was 4Cts in the map
and kasabi was 1 of them
but he didnt command all the map
i put him in the vote (i didn't know that he didn't command)
than he won the vote bcoz the (admins lovers)
than i did the vote again without him
some1 called py1a won the vote so i gave him the points

i wanna say smth this is bad idea bcoz always number 1 win in the vote or the admins if there is any admin in CT
hope u understand me ;)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 03, 2013, 05:57:40 pm
Quote from: ReveX | BloodyPro on June 03, 2013, 04:51:55 pm
it happended smth bad today with me  about this
there was 4Cts in the map
and kasabi was 1 of them
but he didnt command all the map
i put him in the vote (i didn't know that he didn't command)
than he won the vote bcoz the (admins lovers)
than i did the vote again without him
some1 called py1a won the vote so i gave him the points

i wanna say smth this is bad idea bcoz always number 1 win in the vote or the admins if there is any admin in CT
hope u understand me ;)
lets agree to not put admins in the vote? i dont say this because im not an admin anyone , i actualy made an application again. even if i become admin again, i would still support this. admins are there to made it fun for the players and not to have more advantages in gameplay.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: AvataR♫♪ on June 03, 2013, 07:07:32 pm
In usual i liked this idea and really will make the server more interesting\spectacular

@Bloody
agree with Eddy the players will vote for the admins if they were CT's it is unfair for other CT's whom commanding all the rounds
it is about the T's who choose but the players as what bloody said they will choose admin to let him liked them or what ever other things...

Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: terraboN on June 03, 2013, 07:08:30 pm
Popularity will be a issue here, for the CT's that are not well known but are good at commanding.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: MonsteR on June 03, 2013, 07:25:19 pm
Ye i think admins must not take part is the vote because we all know that admins are creative and I dont think this will make them more creative. So admins wont take part in this votes.

I will say it again. This is a test week of the system and after this week pass some things may change. Also admins dont forget to do the vote because you will be punished as like this you are working agains me and the Parliament.



Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Jason Bourne on June 03, 2013, 07:29:01 pm
Ah I did this today,
They chose the most funny one :D
(Not the most creative, No offence)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: P o p a y on June 03, 2013, 07:30:03 pm
Maybe you have pointed this out somewhere but I was lazy to read all replies, so my question is: If there is only one ct, next round shall I give him 40 points?

And what is more, you are actually encouraging CTs to become Ts. :D

Regards,
Popay

Ps Great idea. :) Gratz.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 03, 2013, 07:48:27 pm
Quote from: P   o   p   a   y on June 03, 2013, 07:30:03 pm
Maybe you have pointed this out somewhere but I was lazy to read all replies, so my question is: If there is only one ct, next round shall I give him 40 points?

And what is more, you are actually encouraging CTs to become Ts. :D

Regards,
Popay

Ps Great idea. :) Gratz.
Nextmap* and yes i would like to know thats too, if true : i still need to get 40 points from popay
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: DonJowy on June 03, 2013, 08:36:34 pm
Quote from: P   o   p   a   y on June 03, 2013, 07:30:03 pm
Maybe you have pointed this out somewhere but I was lazy to read all replies, so my question is: If there is only one ct, next round shall I give him 40 points?

And what is more, you are actually encouraging CTs to become Ts. :D

Regards,
Popay

Ps Great idea. :) Gratz.
Make a vote : amx_vote "Was **** ct creative this map ?" "Yes" "No"
If no then dont give him ..
And yes i have a suggestion. Why dont you replace the 'giving 40 points' reward to the most creative ct to 'be nextmap ct'
In my opinion this is better because
1. Its unfair for the admins to not get points .. A normal player can be more creative than him
2. Alot of people rejected this announcement because 40 is too high
3. This will be abused as i and alot think.
4. People will vote for their friends , even tho they didnt command well or were creative in the round.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: P o p a y on June 03, 2013, 11:51:44 pm
I am still waiting response from Monster about my question though. :D

Don't know what to do, if I should give 40 points to the creative SOLO ct or not? If I should give, Eddy I will own you 40 points mate :)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 04, 2013, 12:34:01 am
Quote from: P   o   p   a   y on June 03, 2013, 11:51:44 pm
I am still waiting response from Monster about my question though. :D

Don't know what to do, if I should give 40 points to the creative SOLO ct or not? If I should give, Eddy I will own you 40 points mate :)
lets go ingame now , i got my mic...ready to earn some more pointzzzz :D
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: P o p a y on June 04, 2013, 02:02:28 am
I am reading this actually pretty late, tomorrow you will have them :P, not more than 40 :P.. Once I come from work.. Cya around. :)


ps
Quote from: P   o   p   a   y on June 03, 2013, 11:51:44 pm
I am still waiting response from Monster about my question though. :D

Don't know what to do, if I should give 40 points to the creative SOLO ct or not? If I should give, Eddy I will own you 40 points mate :)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: 'PL' on June 04, 2013, 03:20:31 am
If you want to implode a system like this you have to instruct an empirical formula to follow. This is just too raw for many people, realizations of creativity level doesn't come without motivation. The motivation isn't that strong or rewarding to guarantee better commanding skills. A subjective term can be declined many ways, whereas objective is just onesided
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Jason Bourne on June 04, 2013, 04:16:08 am
True, But the ranking(For points) CTS will try to be creative. Of course we can put creative cts in the ct team and let them battle it out.

How about when the map is Half over we make a vote:-
"Are the CTS creative enough?" Yes No BOOOOOORING
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Kasabiii on June 04, 2013, 03:11:34 pm
Quote from: ReveX | BloodyPro™ on June 03, 2013, 04:51:55 pm
it happended smth bad today with me  about this
there was 4Cts in the map
and kasabi was 1 of them
but he didnt command all the map
i put him in the vote (i didn't know that he didn't command)
than he won the vote bcoz the (admins lovers)
than i did the vote again without him
some1 called py1a won the vote so i gave him the points

i wanna say smth this is bad idea bcoz always number 1 win in the vote or the admins if there is any admin in CT
hope u understand me ;)
Bloody first of all , admins cant participate in the vote So you did a good job and secondly if the ct didn't command don't put him in the vote :)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Critical on June 05, 2013, 06:28:02 am
Nice idea's,

Damn i love my old Seal.

Do you guys still use it or did you guys got another one? :p
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: YouTube Inc. on June 05, 2013, 07:35:23 am
40 is too much also we have about 25 map daily u mean 40x25 WTH??

i think this will make ppl richs xD!
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: -Ninja- on June 05, 2013, 10:20:24 am
I seen some admins using their firends names as the first option when they arent creative at all... We need to start warning them...
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Kasabiii on June 05, 2013, 11:29:25 am
Well , I dont know if Ninja is pointing at me But I dont think that The first one always win So how about to do this

amx_vote Mostcreative (....) Ninja kasabi Monster

And the (...) is for nobody to see if the first one always wins
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: -Ninja- on June 05, 2013, 12:11:22 pm
Well kasabi, the idea is that the most creative ct (you think) should be at the top. So let’s say that we had 4 CTs: Monster, Kasabi, Ninja, and Popay. We played for full 40 mins. Now it’s time for the vote. Let’s say that Monster did a lot of fun games like eye spy, lava day, dodgeball, hot potato and Rainbow day. Kasabi did last reaction, survivors, and Mexican border. Ninja did spelling bee, Simon says, Chick day and last reaction. Popay did Cha Cha day, follow the leader, and reverse day.

Here is the hard bit. Admins must judge the CTs according to their creativity; but remember, YOU WILL NEED TO BE EXTREAMELY PERCIUS in order to make it fair for everyone.

So in this case, I would personally say that: Monster would come on the first option, Popay on the second option, Ninja as the third option and Kasabi on the last option.
The vote would look like this-
amx_Vote "The most creative CT?" "Monster" "Popay" "Ninja" "Kasabi"

Also, remember that you will need to warn the players before starting the vote- to ensure that they're informed and prevent miss-chosen options.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Kasabiii on June 05, 2013, 01:50:33 pm
Ok Ninja Well Be careful about this  ;)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: MonsteR on June 05, 2013, 07:53:37 pm
If there is only 1 CT in the server then there should be no vote and no points given because whn there is one CT this means the server will have 4-6 players which isnt enough for a proper vote. So make votes when there are around 10 players which means 2 CTs + and at least 6 Ts.



Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 06, 2013, 12:15:21 pm
add all these rules to the orginal post or maybe make a new topic.

and almost no admins knows about this...
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: ~RoN on June 07, 2013, 11:00:49 pm
won 7 times the vote ^^  ;)
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Ocelvon on June 08, 2013, 12:10:02 am
There is 1 big issue in this really and i find it disturbing
Most people usually only vote 1 without actually reading the votes
everytime i see a vote (never done...yet xD) the guy/girl(can't forget pinky <3) in number 1 wins

Not sure if this was already stated but reading posts requires allot of work since people talk allot
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Ed on June 08, 2013, 03:26:23 am
This is useless, not always every CT commands in the map, mostly it is one CT who is doing commanding while others back him up.

Also 40 points? I don't think it does help much either, even 200000 points wouldn't.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: -Ninja- on June 08, 2013, 07:24:14 am
Actually it's working perfectly. I am seeing alot of new commander being extremely creative and inferior their own unique games. About the vote, I would say its a minor factor that happen 20% of the time. Don't forget, admin can reduce this by informing the players that the vote is coming. Also, they can do a second vote with different names on different options to ensure validity.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: |B|urN on June 08, 2013, 11:23:17 am
Saw an admin doing this 3 times and roni get 120 points in alll
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: -Ninja- on June 08, 2013, 02:05:24 pm
3 times in 1 map? If so, that's a huge abuse. Got screenshots, name and date?
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: ~RoN on June 08, 2013, 02:43:05 pm
Quote from: -Ninja- on June 08, 2013, 02:05:24 pm
3 times in 1 map? If so, that's a huge abuse. Got screenshots, name and date?
no no i never got 120 points. But i do say that i won 7 or 8 times the vote ^^
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Critical on June 08, 2013, 02:52:28 pm
Quote from: RoNi ♫ on June 08, 2013, 02:43:05 pm
Quote from: -Ninja- on June 08, 2013, 02:05:24 pm
3 times in 1 map? If so, that's a huge abuse. Got screenshots, name and date?
no no i never got 120 points. But i do say that i won 7 or 8 times the vote ^^
0 here -.-"
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: MonsteR on June 08, 2013, 09:06:06 pm
The sistem is working properly i think. Admins dont put yourself in the vote because i saw some admins doing this and if they countinue they will be punished. Better re read the main post so you can see the admin rules.


Regards,
Monster
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: AvataR♫♪ on June 08, 2013, 10:38:16 pm
Quote from: MonsteR on June 08, 2013, 09:06:06 pm
The sistem is working properly i think. Admins dont put yourself in the vote because i saw some admins doing this and if they countinue they will be punished. Better re read the main post so you can see the admin rules.


Regards,
Monster

Sistem = Turkish  :-*
System = English
on topic :
Yeah, i saw this rules is going well but in usual it got some issues, and we'll Get used to it.
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: 'PL' on June 09, 2013, 03:00:10 am
Sistem - bg/mk/srb/cro/ru
:D
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: |B|urN on June 09, 2013, 11:36:36 am
Well i saw ninja not doing the vote i said that plz do the vote for the most creative ct he said none of u r creative ! So this is also allowed or not?
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Ray on June 09, 2013, 11:45:39 am
Burn .. It is allowed.
If the admin found no one creative he can deny the vote
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Eddy Wall-e on June 23, 2013, 11:43:38 pm
stick maybe?
Title: Re: CTs Creativity
Post by: Ray on September 03, 2013, 04:09:01 pm
Archived

Being done already.