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Title: [DENIED] ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 07:37:28 pm
Name: emx
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:50001035   
Reason: swearing apparently
Date & Time: no idea
Admin: Monster
Server: all

others get more than a chance and i don't, doesn't look exactly fair

now, i've showed this to a couple of people.. most of them agreed that it is a personal problem
(http://i48.tinypic.com/sza990.png)
and i don't blame monster for hating me, and yeah i'm sorry for swearing that much.. but i can show you that i've changed.. as long as you give me a chance, i've tried to speak to monster personally but he kept saying no.. no option left but to apply which i hate..

i've been gone a good 2 and a half months, that's cause i've been trying to fix my attitude and well, i can tell you that it worked out well, just give me a chance and you'll see


oh, and to whoever else that has a problem with me.. hopefully none will comment saying something negative, let's act like grown ups and put whatever happened behind, i'm willing to do so.

sorry for the long post, if you made it here, then thanks and give me a chance.. you won't regret it. ^^
Title: ehh..
Post by: Big Bob on April 03, 2013, 07:37:28 pm
Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=12.0) and check the Banlist (http://www.spekbinder.nl/banlist/) to see the information on your ban. If the admin doesn't provide a demo or comment within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: [K]ar!mooo # on April 03, 2013, 07:40:33 pm
Support , he really changed alot and prooved it to me so i hope he can proove it to you guys too
and i dont think that personal beefs have to ruin the slim chance he has to get unbanned
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Koray on April 03, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
Support for unban,

He is a really good guy and he changed i used to play with him while i was almost vip at Deathrun he swore alot but iknow he changed he has to get a chance so please Moster forguve him ..
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: sMiT on April 03, 2013, 07:50:11 pm
Support , he really changed alot and prooved it to me so i hope he can proove it to you guys too
and i dont think that personal beefs have to ruin the slim chance he has to get unbanned

Your opinion doesnt count, your in the chat with him above, of course youll support.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Shane on April 03, 2013, 08:18:50 pm
Well what is the whole story, i don't know anything about it really to post an opinion so if monster would post what the whole deal is i'm willing to put in my two cents.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 08:26:22 pm
i'll try to make this short

i may have said a couple of words about monster in a steam chat and it got to him somehow [not on ambrosia's servers, shouldn't count i guess..]

and then the night before i got banned, there was like 4 of 3 trolls bothering me for a couple of hours, cussing at me and swearing about my mom.. i just had enough of kicking them and decided to swear back at them for a couple of minutes, one of them recorded and well.. next day: banned.

it might be another story where i swear in but i don't really know.. the only swear words i use are "sh*t" and the f word, but apparently that's too hardcore..
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Shane on April 03, 2013, 08:29:58 pm
i'll try to make this short

i may have said a couple of words about monster in a steam chat and it got to him somehow [not on ambrosia's servers, shouldn't count i guess..]

and then the night before i got banned, there was like 4 of 3 trolls bothering me for a couple of hours, cussing at me and swearing about my mom.. i just had enough of kicking them and decided to swear back at them for a couple of minutes, one of them recorded and well.. next day: banned.

it might be another story where i swear in but i don't really know.. the only swear words i use are "sh*t" and the f word, but apparently that's too hardcore..

If this is the whole story, i wouldn't say a perm ban should be given here, a timed ban perhaps, also the people who were also swearing and being disrespectful towards him should also receive the same punishment, personal feelings towards a player should not get involved in this.

(just my two cents)
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 08:33:32 pm
thanks, but someone might drop another story in here.. i don't have a good memory
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Cowboy on April 03, 2013, 09:00:58 pm
And wut's about keeping him banned
I just remember that you had been ban evaded maybe before the dr removed , you were talking in mic and i have recognized that it was you from your voice, so i said is it you there ,you said "Yeah" and you started to  swear and insult me, i said to you to stop but you keep on doing it. My humble opinion about you that there is no changing and it will never be. ban evade is not good ,dude.
I'm with monsters side. You don't respect the servers ,admins nor players ,none , I remember that you swore at monster and ambrosia also at rules too.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Fisu on April 03, 2013, 09:05:18 pm
Support his unban. Maby just set a date for him to be unbanned. Hes a nice guy deserves a Chance.

EDIT: To belive he did such things Show  some proofs here please dont judge without proofs
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 09:10:32 pm
i don't think i even saw you ;\, and i told monster about the whole 'ban avoiding' thing, he decided to stick to his story which is obviously not true
and there is no reason for me to insult you, infact the last time i saw you, we were just chatting normally ;\...
and i may have a bad memory, but its not that bad.. i don't remember attacking you like that, and if i did its probably cause of your attitude.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Grmbl on April 03, 2013, 09:10:56 pm
I wanna hear Monster's side of things before giving any opinion. I would also like to point out to provide evidence when stating "facts" for example if u accuse someone for banevading, back it up with evidence.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Ray on April 03, 2013, 09:12:33 pm
thanks, but someone might drop another story in here.. i don't have a good memory
You didn't imagine finding me still in Ambrosia ?
So basically no he didn't just swear ....
He also threaten monster of getting DDoSed which is in the most of the cases unacceptable.
Also, you were going on Ambrosia BAN EVADING with Multiple Steams !
Also going JB as CT using mic and changing your voice to a kid ?! SO YOU FORGOT THAT ?! AND YOU STILL WANT UNBAN ?!!? Shame .....

You forgot swearing at everyone on Jailbreak.... and then in Deathrun ... and then to monster ... and then ban evading .. and then threatening of DDoSing ... And God knows what else i don't know about you.

SOOOOOO Basically MonsteR has 100% the right to keep you banned while he's HA ...

Said what i need to say .. Got anything else before this gets Denied ?


EDIT : Do you remember making a long page SWEARING to all ambrosia before you got banned from forums ? then you deleted it cz it was by mistake ?
You remember that ? good ...

also also... don't forget how much you swore to ambrosia on steam and told me you will never come back because we're kids here ? what happened to that ? Poof ?
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 09:24:45 pm
i never swore at everyone in jailbreak, nor deathrun, if i did as i said before its cause someone started it, and the ddosing? well, i don't even know how to get someone's ip so that was all lies. and it was cause i was pissed at monster for not even listening to me. and swearing at monster was in steam, last time i checked steam isn't related to ambrosia so i shouldn't be banned for that, and as i said before i wasn't ban avoiding, you don't know the story behind that so don't speak about it, everyone keeps throwing the same exact stuff at me cause they can't pull anything else, someone hacks.. unbanned in a week, someone says a couple of harmless words to another person and gets banned perm and everyone loses their mind, something doesn't look right to me.

you're not neutral, everyone makes mistakes, just don't keep pulling them out and attacking me with them, let it go and don't hold a grudge
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: thEnd on April 03, 2013, 09:30:00 pm
thanks, but someone might drop another story in here.. i don't have a good memory
You didn't imagine finding me still in Ambrosia ?
So basically no he didn't just swear ....
He also threaten monster of getting DDoSed which is in the most of the cases unacceptable.
Also, you were going on Ambrosia BAN EVADING with Multiple Steams !
Also going JB as CT using mic and changing your voice to a kid ?! SO YOU FORGOT THAT ?! AND YOU STILL WANT UNBAN ?!!? Shame .....

You forgot swearing at everyone on Jailbreak.... and then in Deathrun ... and then to monster ... and then ban evading .. and then threatening of DDoSing ... And God knows what else i don't know about you.

SOOOOOO Basically MonsteR has 100% the right to keep you banned while he's HA ...

Said what i need to say .. Got anything else before this gets Denied ?

This is just one side of the coin. You just had one case dropped by smit cuz of lacking neutrality. Let monster reveal whole story
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Cowboy on April 03, 2013, 09:30:46 pm
I don't want to talk about my behave, but you can ask about it.  Unfortunately, I have no demo, but i can't forget the way he was insulting & swearing at me, he was enjoying doing it. I'm just here to give my opinion in this cause, he did that with monster also with me and if he gets unbanned he will do it with others. I don't know why we need such  a person in this community , I don't know why we need a player he don't even respect the rules ? from his story he was an admin so why he didn't use his rights to ban them ,he swore back to them (immature). or  it's just a lie to justify his faults.

let's wait till monster responds.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: owNz on April 03, 2013, 09:31:09 pm
thanks, but someone might drop another story in here.. i don't have a good memory
You didn't imagine finding me still in Ambrosia ?
So basically no he didn't just swear ....
He also threaten monster of getting DDoSed which is in the most of the cases unacceptable.
Also, you were going on Ambrosia BAN EVADING with Multiple Steams !
Also going JB as CT using mic and changing your voice to a kid ?! SO YOU FORGOT THAT ?! AND YOU STILL WANT UNBAN ?!!? Shame .....

You forgot swearing at everyone on Jailbreak.... and then in Deathrun ... and then to monster ... and then ban evading .. and then threatening of DDoSing ... And God knows what else i don't know about you.

SOOOOOO Basically MonsteR has 100% the right to keep you banned while he's HA ...

Said what i need to say .. Got anything else before this gets Denied ?


EDIT : Do you remember making a long page SWEARING to all ambrosia before you got banned from forums ? then you deleted it cz it was by mistake ?
You remember that ? good ...

also also... don't forget how much you swore to ambrosia on steam and told me you will never come back because we're kids here ? what happened to that ? Poof ?
mm plz provide proof maybe ?
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Ray on April 03, 2013, 09:32:46 pm
i never swore at everyone in jailbreak, nor deathrun, if i did as i said before its cause someone started it, and the ddosing? well, i don't even know how to get someone's ip so that was all lies. and it was cause i was pissed at monster for not even listening to me. and swearing at monster was in steam, last time i checked steam isn't related to ambrosia so i shouldn't be banned for that, and as i said before i wasn't ban avoiding, you don't know the story behind that so don't speak about it, everyone keeps throwing the same exact stuff at me cause they can't pull anything else, someone hacks.. unbanned in a week, someone says a couple of harmless words to another person and gets banned perm and everyone loses their mind, something doesn't look right to me.

Let's see .... There's a difference between people. People like you do not deserve unban.

Listen ... so you're denying Ban evading ?! Really ? Because being in jailbreak as CT acting like a kid and our chat on steam says otherwise!

Alsooo Yes you did swear at all jailbreak players ... that was the reason why you were banned at the first place.
and you did threaten monster with DDoS ... and you don't know how to get IP and DDoS ... because people have friends ... and your friends were gonna help you ... (Tolga) But now you and tolga are no longer friends .. so you looked for your old friends in ambrosia ? No thanks.
Ambrosia does not welcome people like you.

Monster. You may solve it if you want.
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Fisu on April 03, 2013, 09:34:28 pm

Guys seriosly! Show some proofs. " He swore He swore He swore" I cant see any singel proof in this Topic! And let MonsteR tell us his side of the Story.

To ban him we Need= PROOFS
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: cr33py on April 03, 2013, 09:35:42 pm
I don't want to talk about my behave, but you can ask about it.  Unfortunately, I have no demo, but i can't forget the way he was insulting & swearing at me, he was enjoying doing it. I'm just here to give my opinion in this cause, he did that with monster also with me and if he gets unbanned he will do it with others. I don't know why we need such  a person in this community , I don't know why we need a player he don't even respect the rules ? from his story he was an admin so why he didn't use his rights to ban them ,he swore back to them (immature). or  it's just a lie to justify his faults.

let's wait till monster responds.

i'm sure that i wouldn't join a random server and start attacking you, i don't know you and you're not a target for me, and you think that the first thing i'll do after being unbanned is just joining the first server i see and swearing at everyone? open your mind just a little bit and think about what i would do when i join a server, if what you're saying is true then i would've been swearing at everybody in here already which isn't happening at the moment, is it?
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: Grmbl on April 03, 2013, 09:36:14 pm
Locked it like a baws! Awaiting Monster's reply
Title: Re: ehh..
Post by: MonsteR on April 03, 2013, 09:42:59 pm
MonsteR: you are telling me you havent played in any ambrosia server for this 1 month
MonsteR: ?
yelaw0lf`: i was playing deathrun aswell
MonsteR: well you banevaded more then once
MonsteR: you was playing multimod as well
yelaw0lf`: yeah
yelaw0lf`: but it was an honest mistake man, why would i tell you all of this
yelaw0lf`: if it wasnt?
yelaw0lf`: give me a chance man, im not asking for too much..
MonsteR: well you was banevading
MonsteR: you you wont be unbanned sorry
yelaw0lf`: your really unfair dude
MonsteR: i am not there are rules and we follow them
MonsteR: if you want i can add any of he emperors
MonsteR: so you can see
MonsteR: that they will say the same thing
yelaw0lf`: yeah, i broke some rules, yeah i ban evaded by mistake without even knowing what it means
MonsteR: banevade = permban
yelaw0lf`: but that doesnt mean, that i shouldnt be given another chance..
yelaw0lf`: they wont say the same thing
yelaw0lf`: they will keep on evading
yelaw0lf`: thats what they woudl do, but not me..

MonsteR: maybe you will get an other chance but it wont be now
MonsteR: you will stay banned
Bee: So now.. what u want to talk with me Monster.
yelaw0lf`: so, you mean that
MonsteR: and you can make an unban request
MonsteR: after few months
yelaw0lf`: after few months?
yelaw0lf`: Monster - **.***.***.**  (I just removed the IP)
yelaw0lf`: have fun being ddosed
yelaw0lf`: for being the shittest head admin ive ever seen
yelaw0lf`: kthxbai
yelaw0lf` left chat.
Bee: '-'
MonsteR: ok have fun that you will never ever join ambrosia again
MonsteR: send him this plz
Bee: done..
MonsteR: ty
Bee: yelaw0lf`: i will
yelaw0lf`: i know how to evade
yelaw0lf`: i have million steam accounts
yelaw0lf`: pus sy.
MonsteR: i knwo this but still
MonsteR: the same way you was banned now you will be banned again and again
MonsteR: untill your accounts funish
MonsteR: finish*
Bee: So.. what u wanted to talk with me
MonsteR: and wish him fun ddosing my dinamic ip
MonsteR: Bee: yelaw0lf`: non steam :)
yelaw0lf`: lol, you'll never stop me bro
yelaw0lf`: give up
yelaw0lf`: i have an unlimited source of IP's, and i can keep on getting yours, have fun lagging with 1k latency and your internet going on/off every minute

yelaw0lf`: for being such a ****** up head admin



This was the last 5 min of our 1 hour long conversation. So in the begging you was telling me how you dont know what banevading is and how good you are what an angel you are. But at the end when i said  i will not unban you because you banevaded MANY times, the devil inside you apeared.


I said it in that chat and i said it in the second chat which you posted and i will say it here as well:


You will stay banned! And ofc here comes the reason:

   First of all i am not going to let anyone to swear and disrespect me and the other community members (because you was firstly banned for swearing and saying that you dont respect the rules) if you dont care about the rules then you have no place among us. You said you will banevade as much as you want which means that you dont deserve to get unbanned and as we all see you have millions of accounts so there is no point to unban you as you will keep banevading anyways.
   You was banevading many times while you had your first (1 month) ban and you kept doing it after you got the perm ban as well so after all those thousands of banevades you dont have a place here in Ambrosia.
   And last but not least you said you will ddos me which means you dont decerve to play here as well. And i want to add that in the same day i got ddosed but then changed my IP and all was over. So you didnt just say you will do it but you did it. This all is enough to keep you Permanently banned from Ambrosia.


We dont need people who swear at us, people who banevades or even ddos us here! This is one of the best communitys and people like you and the other known banevaders are ruining it.


And I dont accept your fake apology which you are doing just to get unbanned! Because you are a lier saying you dont know what banevade is and you have never done it and when i talked with many admins which all said you banevaded it seems that you was doing it a lot of times banevading in different servers. When you admited that you know what banevading is which means you may be lying now as well saying that you changed. After the Perm ban you was still banevading which shows you havent changed so you just dont deserve to be part of this community.



With all my respect and with the rights given to me from the Emperors i am Denying this unban request

Title: Re: [DENIED] ehh..
Post by: Ray on April 03, 2013, 09:48:31 pm
Case closed 8) exactly what i said.

Player will remain Banned permanently for disrespecting Ambrosia's Rules.
Cheers.
Title: Re: [DENIED] ehh..
Post by: thEnd on April 03, 2013, 09:57:55 pm
Hi. I suggest to make a new rule that involved persons can't solve if even they represent hi staff.
I undarstand monsters concerns, but this topic was looking so hate full from.
And ray. Respect people or you will be warned.
Title: Re: [DENIED] ehh..
Post by: MonsteR on April 03, 2013, 10:10:16 pm
Thend this was already discused at the high staff board and i posted the same evidence there (which is the reason i still have the chat). So at the high staff board all the high staff agreed that such people must remain out of Ambrosia same as tolga, Lux aka liam, I pawn, G and Cplus which are the main banevaders. This guy is equal to them because they sweared, they banevaded and they ddosed Ambrosia and the Ambrosia members. Which means same as they will never get unbanned he must never get unbanned as well. And because i didnt want to waste the time of the high staff and because i didnt want to make a big topic in which many spam and many fights will apear i decided to solve it myself.


Also i dont really think this is the correct place to discus that. If the Emperors dont agree with me and want to unban this guy they can anways do it that is why Thend i dont see a problem if i solve it and if they want they will make a new final decision.



Regards,
Monster



PS: Please, everyone stop posting on an already locked topic. If any higher staff then me want to change the decison he is free to do it as we all know.