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Recruitment & Justice => Staff Complaints & Misconduct => Resolved Staff Complaints => Topic started by: tuxCdo on February 20, 2013, 01:16:04 am

Title: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: tuxCdo on February 20, 2013, 01:16:04 am
Hi, i was playing in dd2_only few minutes ago, and suddenly this admin slay me although I did nothing on purpose. (no warning or anything and suddenly slay)
Then i got mad and mock this MNR,
and now i got banned for nothing.

i know u have power but
Please have some respect to players as well!

I ve been playing long time on this server and most admins probably see me play quite often there and i nvr did anything intentionally (flash). 
and suddenly this absurd MNR appears.

have some justice!

thx
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 01:38:21 am
MNR :  STOP TEAMFALSHING TUXCDO DONKEY

tuxCdo (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
*** LAGGY killed @mo with a headshot from ak47 ***
*** ProeliuM!  Thel0l    .oFF killed **OverdOo$e^^ with a headshot from m4a1 ***
ADMIN MNR: slay tuxCdo
[Ambrosia INFO] Say /server and check other Ambrosia Servers
*DEAD* tuxCdo :  wtf

EZIO<3 + LAGGY killed El Piraten with ak47
*DEAD* Vendetta^Mohawk Nz :  omfg

!le181 connected
ProeliuM!  Thel0l    .oFF killed Bomb, James Bomb. with m4a1
Lucky Newbie (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
LAGGY killed [DoA] Brothers In Arms with ak47
Lucky Newbie (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
El Piraten (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
!le181 is joining the Terrorist force
EZIO<3 + **OverdOo$e^^ killed ProeliuM!  Thel0l    .oFF with ak47
*DEAD* tuxCdo :  did i do it on purpose u dickhead??

LAGGY killed MNR with ak47
Lucky Newbie killed EZIO<3 with awp
*DEAD* El Piraten :  /me

[DoA] Brothers In Arms (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
*DEAD* Yuva :  lol

*DEAD* [DoA] Brothers In Arms :  /me

*DEAD* ProeliuM!  Thel0l    .oFF :  :)

*DEAD* tuxCdo :  noob admin mnr

tuxCdo has left the game
*DEAD* Totenkopf. :  )

*DEAD* tuxCdo :  **** off

I marked the important stuff in red should be self-explanatory. But in case some people miss it.

I obviously said not to teamflash. Guess what, immediatly after that, ANOTHER teamflash. I don't care if it is accidently or on purpose, no teamflashing is no teamflashing. So, you have been warned.

You said you mocked me? Good one. ;)

To make sure I didn't change anything, feel free to check the logs.

Note: I banned him for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 01:44:34 am
Team flashing happens on public servers, with so many people, unless it was on purpose in spawn or something i don't know what you want done..
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 01:45:59 am
Team flashing happens on public servers, with so many people, unless it was on purpose in spawn or something i don't know what you want done..

It happens, I agree. But people should take care. I warned him and have been warning all day. When someone SEES me running towards short and still flashes, then I they'll get punished by me.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 01:51:42 am
It is a public server, people don't always take note of what is happening around them, they see or hear a enemy at the area they will flash/grenade it not everyone takes note of who is doing what in public servers, i have been flashed many times in d2, classic etc by my own team but you have to accept mistakes happen, it is not on purpose, if it was thrown in spawn i would agree to your punishment but in this case i think you are wrong

*EDIT*

If he has insulted you as mentioned above then by all means take the action required.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 01:54:17 am
It is a public server, people don't always take note of what is happening around them, they see or hear a enemy at the area they will flash/grenade it not everyone takes note of who is doing what in public servers, i have been flashed many times in d2, classic etc by my own team but you have to accept mistakes happen, it is not on purpose, if it was thrown in spawn i would agree to your punishment but in this case i think you are wrong

Comprehensive reading must be hard. Again: I ran towards short, I'm @ short and he flashed again AFTER I warned him. You want me to congratulate him?
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: thEnd on February 20, 2013, 01:54:45 am
10 mins is a soft punishment for calling admin dhead. He 1.warned-2.slayed-3.tempbanned as u constantly abused the rules - 1.tf'ed on purpose (2x)- 2.abused an admin(2x)
Don't do it again as it would end in more longer ban (as mostly of the servers ban admin abusers for 4k mins (1mnth))
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 01:56:43 am
No, i want you to understand, this is PUBLIC team flashes happen, not everyone reads people positions.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 01:58:07 am
No, i want you to understand, this is PUBLIC team flashes happen, not everyone reads people positions.

He didn't had to "read" ANTHING. I warned him so he had to know that I was short.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: thEnd on February 20, 2013, 02:01:27 am
Trip vs forest gogogo..
Pls solve this asap :(
As I see that was done on purpose and mnr followed the rules..
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: almighty DomiNic on February 20, 2013, 02:04:01 am
Let's calm down ladies and donkey (Money), report is usless, Money did what he did and done, he warned the guy kept doing it so he slayed then he was insulted then boom ban, i see no harm done, only a 10 min ban that is already over and done. Like i said no harm done.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Daniel on February 20, 2013, 02:04:59 am
No, i want you to understand, this is PUBLIC team flashes happen, not everyone reads people positions.
This.
Mistakes happen, and not everyone has the skill to check radar to not teamflash. Insults came due the harsh slay you gave, though, insulting a player , specially an admin, is not well tolarated.
10 mins ban is indeed a nice punishment due the words you said towards the admin.

If no one has anything else to add, ill move this topic ^^
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 02:08:03 am
maybe my wording was wrong, he didn't see or know you was going short, flashing short is a normal thing, maybe he didn't see you or expect you to push? i don't know i'm just pointing out situations, but banning him for that when it seems not on purpose is wrong, however if he typed abuse then fair play
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Ray on February 20, 2013, 05:01:27 am
Well it can be a mistake sometimes team-flashing .. Like fails or something ..
But if it's on purpose he should be warned .. If warned .. He has the right to slay you .. So a fail report I guess
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 11:06:55 am
maybe my wording was wrong, he didn't see or know you was going short, flashing short is a normal thing, maybe he didn't see you or expect you to push? i don't know i'm just pointing out situations, but banning him for that when it seems not on purpose is wrong, however if he typed abuse then fair play

Is there something wrong with you man? How many times do I have to repeat myself?

I banned him because of the insulting not because of the teamflashing.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: WeeDy on February 20, 2013, 11:39:12 am
MNR u must ban him for some weeks lol
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 11:43:25 am
maybe my wording was wrong, he didn't see or know you was going short, flashing short is a normal thing, maybe he didn't see you or expect you to push? i don't know i'm just pointing out situations, but banning him for that when it seems not on purpose is wrong, however if he typed abuse then fair play

Is there something wrong with you man? How many times do I have to repeat myself?

I banned him because of the insulting not because of the teamflashing.

I'm sorry it's just the amount of times you went on about the flashing i assumed that was your reason, you never actually mentioned him insulting you as the reason. and in answer to your question, no there is nothing wrong with me, is there something wrong with you?
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Burzum on February 20, 2013, 11:47:52 am
teamflashes are crap in this game

im also teamflashed several times per day, but we can not do anything about that: public server, newbie players... this happens usually... only with useless and laggy plugs can stop this (which already we voted to dont install on servers)

BUT, if you warn them, they continue teamflashing, and even they insult the admin, OFCOURSE they deserve a punishment, (kick if they continue teamflashing, or ban if they insult any1)

off topic: today a player insulted me coz i banned a cheater, so i had to ban the flamer also for 60 mins....to he goes relax

sometimes a little punishment (30 or 60 mins) is enough for make players realize about their behaviour
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Alves on February 20, 2013, 11:54:57 am
Let me add something. Respect goes both ways, from player to admin and vice versa. Always keep that in mind.
I think you can consider this as solved, Daniel, as the ban already expired.

Regards
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: DrDrake on February 20, 2013, 11:56:38 am
You said you're playing here long, so then how many times you have teamflashed all?

 Lets not count that, about the dhead, you was right to ban him for short period of time, anyone could of done that. Bust there is also a problem with tf, most of the players are noobs and they dont check radar, not even talking about sound.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 12:00:39 pm
Nip, I agree with you but lately I've been being disrespected waaay too much. I get insulted, then I warned, but people kept insulting.
Now when I get insulted I immediatly ban for 5 to 15 minutes. I'm not here to take this kind of nonsense.

And even when I ban for 10 min, other admins tell me I should ban for a longer amount of time. People like this tuxCdo should be grateful for having me and not another admin dealing with them.

This was already solved from the beginning when I took care of it.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2013, 12:03:58 pm
You mention about him insulting you etc, but you also insult players (just looked into the logs) maybe as joking i don't know, but calling people noobs, telling them they are bad at the game, swearing etc so don't act like you are mr innocent.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: thEnd on February 20, 2013, 12:05:31 pm
Well ladies, this is tuxedo topic where he claims that mr MNR abused power.
Did he?
Clear answer - Nope.
Any other matter can be dealt in server hq..
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: MNR[fp] on February 20, 2013, 12:06:32 pm
You mention about him insulting you etc, but you also insult players (just looked into the logs) maybe as joking i don't know, but calling people noobs, telling them they are bad at the game, swearing etc so don't act like you are mr innocent.

Trip mate, get a grip. If you would check the logs you would notice I only joke with people that joke with me. I'm not playing mr innocent at all, if you got an issue tell me now or be quiet.

Someone is having a complaint, so I defend my self (rightfully) that's not playing mr innocent.

@ everyone in this topic, first read all replies THEN reply, so for the last time drdrake, he knew I was in short because I warned. Yet he flashed again. On top of that DrDrake, when I teamflash (occasionally) I always, ALWAYS apologize. I didn't say that teamflashing should be banable or something. It's normal that teamflashing happens, but not in this way.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: DrDrake on February 20, 2013, 12:10:30 pm
You mention about him insulting you etc, but you also insult players (just looked into the logs) maybe as joking i don't know, but calling people noobs, telling them they are bad at the game, swearing etc so don't act like you are mr innocent.

Trip mate, get a grip. If you would check the logs you would notice I only joke with people that joke with me. I'm not playing mr innocent at all, if you got an issue tell me now or be quiet.

Someone is having a complaint, so I defend my self (rightfully) that's not playing mr innocent.

@ everyone in this topic, first read all replies THEN reply, so for the last time drdrake, he knew I was in short because I warned. Yet he flashed again. On top of that DrDrake, when I teamflash (occasionally) I always, ALWAYS apologize. I didn't say that teamflashing should be banable or something. It's normal that teamflashing happens, but not in this way.

I understand that! Just mentioned not him but others doing that. Cant say much about you being flashed, maybe he did that on purpose maybe he heard some guys over there and threw, who knows.
Title: Re: admin MNR abuse power
Post by: Daniel on February 20, 2013, 01:22:02 pm
Report solved.
Keep in mind what Nip said ^^, it also goes from admin to admin.