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General Category => Suggestions / Feedback => Rejected Suggestions => Topic started by: Weed Farmerr on January 09, 2013, 11:36:43 am
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Hello all ;D
Now that I am not available to play in Ambrosia servers ( :-[ ) ,I am playing in a Greek server and I saw a plug that will help a lot!The plug is simple when a player(example: Casper) join in one of Ambrosia servers for example in Classic server ,automatically Casper's console will start recording his self (Name: Demo_Classic_Ambrosia).So everytime that Casper will join in Classic server a demo will be recorded automatically with the same Name as always so your PC will not get full and always you will have 1 demo.So if an admin ban someone ( of course admin will record a demo,i am not saying that admins can stop recording demos ) and the player make unban request he must provide the demo of his self ( otherwise his unban request can denied stray away) ,the admin too.Clearly we will see if this ban is correct and if the player was using some kind of cheat so the decision ( Unban/Denied ) will be 100% correct.
Every time that a Admin want to record someone he must stop the demo of his self because as we all know we cant record 2 demos in the same time.
All these demos will not lag the server.
In my opinion this plug would be awesome if we had it in our servers because it would be able to solve a lot problems and of course time and work for everyone.
:-*
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You mean Auto Demo Recorder: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=770786 (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=770786)
I think it was suggested before but it was denied.
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yes mate, we fighted agaisnt that plug
as i replied before, with this plug admins will not bother theirselves in going to spec mode and record cheaters. with this plug admins will ban so easy and fast without even spec, only coz the player MUST provide the demo, and not the admin.......
for me is a bad plug
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Amx_ss better
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yes mate, we fighted agaisnt that plug
as i replied before, with this plug admins will not bother theirselves in going to spec mode and record cheaters. with this plug admins will ban so easy and fast without even spec, only coz the player MUST provide the demo, and not the admin.......
for me is a bad plug
No No,As I said the admins must provide the demo of the cheater.This is clean! Otherwise warns,demotes will take place.
This is very simple if the admin will not provide the demo and if we see that he banned the player only because the player must provide his demo ,will get in trouble the admin!
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I Like the Idea. The player must NOT provide the Demo if the Admin doesnt. " In case he really cheated" if the admin doesnt provide a Demo hes lucky and escapes and admin gets his Punishment for it like normal.
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If the admin will not provide his demo the player will unban and the noob admin will get a warn ;)
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If the admin will not provide his demo the player will unban and the noob admin will get a warn ;)
if its the admin who must provide demo, then a big YES
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A no from me, specially when its recording I feel spikes.
I rather have an admin recording me on his computer rather than recording myself every game play and having spikes.
Also as Burzum said, admins will be lazy, will have more excuses of not having a demo.
amx_ss can be good, but a demo is a must anyway and ss shouldn't be counted as big proof.
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A no from me, specially when its recording I feel spikes.
I rather have an admin recording me on his computer rather than recording myself every game play and having spikes.
Also as Burzum said, admins will be lazy, will have more excuses of not having a demo.
amx_ss can be good, but a demo is a must anyway and ss shouldn't be counted as big proof.
Just delete your WH and say yes to my idea!
Let me clean you some things ..
You dont have to record your self everytime that you will join in the server,you will not have to do ANYTHING ,the demo will start the record automatically.Admins will not be lazy...to ban a cheater they MUST have their own demo.Do you ban this player and you dont have demo Mr.Sami ? warned/suspended/demoted thats all!
And Burzum in the unban request of the player will exist 2 demo's.The demo that Admins recorded and player's demo but clearly player's demo will show if he was using cheats or not and you will be 100% sure!
We are talking about succeed here !! No more wrong decisions ,no more different opinions about a demo ..With this plug you will be sure if the player was using cheats or not ,like you were next to him in his room while he was playing cs ;)
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but clearly player's demo will show if he was using cheats or not and you will be 100% sure!
With this plug you will be sure if the player was using cheats or not ,like you were next to him in his room while he was playing cs ;)
If the admin must provide also the demo then there will be two exactly same demos.. Maybe the hacking player demo is a bit longer because it recorded whole gaming session but quick question; How can you be 100% sure if hes hacking or not? Are you saying that player own demo will record also his wallhack's because that would be false information.. =/
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Weed, I know what you are talking about, auto recording, it starts automatically. When Redzone was up I remember I had to stop the demo which started automatically to reduce my lag. I wouldn't of known otherwise that they have the auto recorder unless I felt the spike. So still a no from me.
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but clearly player's demo will show if he was using cheats or not and you will be 100% sure!
With this plug you will be sure if the player was using cheats or not ,like you were next to him in his room while he was playing cs ;)
If the admin must provide also the demo then there will be two exactly same demos.. Maybe the hacking player demo is a bit longer because it recorded whole gaming session but quick question; How can you be 100% sure if hes hacking or not? Are you saying that player own demo will record also his wallhack's because that would be false information.. =/
Exactly 2 same demos.You can be sure because player's demo will show the wallhack ,the players and this is not false information because when you are recording your self and you are using wallhack ,after you finish and watch the demo ,it will show your wallhack,Just exactly what you were seeing when you were playing!
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The difference is why should I suffer when I don't use cheats? If I had a better pc sure I don't have a problem with it. I wanted to buy one, but need a car first -.-
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The difference is why should I suffer when I don't use cheats? If I had a better pc sure I don't have a problem with it. I wanted to buy one, but need a car first -.-
0 care about your car :D
No spam in my topic or warn warn warn warn and BAMMM you are muted :-*
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There is no need to put this plugin on servers it will just make the servers even worse filling up with useless plugins.
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after you finish and watch the demo ,it will show your wallhack,Just exactly what you were seeing when you were playing!
This is not true. It wont show the wallhack, models or anything what's on your own CS...... :D
Useless plugin since admin have to send his own demo also..
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These kind of things were suppose to be posted over in HQ so that normal members cant see it, if you know what i mean ;)
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amx_ss: use it when you suspect a player for wallhack,
demo: use it when you suspect a player for speedhack/aimbot?
Are we done?
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We've to record and post demos, and since theyll ne pretty much the same, its worthless.
Leave the servers as they are, theres no need to add lots of plugins that will do nothing but turning it into a mess.
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amx_ss: use it when you suspect a player for wallhack,
demo: use it when you suspect a player for speedhack/aimbot?
Are we done?
Ever heard about Valkyrie overlay?
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Not until now.
My statement is invalid but still some of the guys can be caught that way! :D
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As it stands the onus is on the admin to provide a demo of suspected wrong-doing. This method ensures the admin takes responsibility for his / her actions.
I prefer it the way it is. And to take Mr Nip's point which is completely valid - The fewer the plugins the better.
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The server already is doing it's own thing. Sometimes I have ping up to 100 (which isn't normal), add an automatic record and the lagg will be horrible.
That's a no for me.
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But about ss.
The only time ever I remmember was 2yrs ago piranchas banned one Latvian guy- SniperjonokLV and took a ss.
Later on his unban req Pira asked him to provide a ss.
And player never came back.
So my question. Can we do ss and ask players to provide them if necessary? I mean overlay cheats for über lever smartasses.
Is even amx ss on dd2?
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But about ss.
The only time ever I remmember was 2yrs ago piranchas banned one Latvian guy- SniperjonokLV and took a ss.
Later on his unban req Pira asked him to provide a ss.
And player never came back.
So my question. Can we do ss and ask players to provide them if necessary? I mean overlay cheats for über lever smartasses.
Is even amx ss on dd2?
I've seen in a server except the demo-record, for smart cheaters they use a key that blind players in game to see their reaction if they are wh-ing or not, and another option when the player is in action and admins have many doubts about this player they make 5 SS on the player and transef him to spectator mode. After that they require the player to send the photos by mail or upload to forum.
Both, Demo + 5 ss (for pro cheaters), will be good.
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Demo recording should have no impact what so ever on your fps. Sorry gotta dispell that rumor. Its a cs urban legend.
Recording and encoding is done at a very simple layer of the engine, simply logging a set of inputs and data streams into a text file which is then compiled in a rudimentary way by the cpu - in terms of run time your looking at less than a fraction of a percent of your cpu. The only time you'd may possibly get a spike would be if the memeroy in use exceeded your free system ram while playing and then it stores a page file.
I'm perma demoing myself, once had a 5 hour long demo which was just over 600meg a few years ago on a very old rig when I fell asleep spectating a public server. Never experienced performance issues. Biggest test cs can throw at your gpu is smoke particles, end of story.
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Demo recording should have no impact what so ever on your fps. Sorry gotta dispell that rumor. Its a cs urban legend.
Recording and encoding is done at a very simple layer of the engine, simply logging a set of inputs and data streams into a text file which is then compiled in a rudimentary way by the cpu - in terms of run time your looking at less than a fraction of a percent of your cpu. The only time you'd may possibly get a spike would be if the memeroy in use exceeded your free system ram while playing and then it stores a page file.
I'm perma demoing myself, once had a 5 hour long demo which was just over 600meg a few years ago on a very old rig when I fell asleep spectating a public server. Never experienced performance issues. Biggest test cs can throw at your gpu is smoke particles, end of story.
This. I mean, I wouldn't mind being recorded :D
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Demo recording should have no impact what so ever on your fps. Sorry gotta dispell that rumor. Its a cs urban legend.
Recording and encoding is done at a very simple layer of the engine, simply logging a set of inputs and data streams into a text file which is then compiled in a rudimentary way by the cpu - in terms of run time your looking at less than a fraction of a percent of your cpu. The only time you'd may possibly get a spike would be if the memeroy in use exceeded your free system ram while playing and then it stores a page file.
I'm perma demoing myself, once had a 5 hour long demo which was just over 600meg a few years ago on a very old rig when I fell asleep spectating a public server. Never experienced performance issues. Biggest test cs can throw at your gpu is smoke particles, end of story.
I can understand this, but my CPU usage running applications or even watching videos on youtube goes 100% constantly. And yes I do feel spikes.
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Demo recording should have no impact what so ever on your fps. Sorry gotta dispell that rumor. Its a cs urban legend.
Recording and encoding is done at a very simple layer of the engine, simply logging a set of inputs and data streams into a text file which is then compiled in a rudimentary way by the cpu - in terms of run time your looking at less than a fraction of a percent of your cpu. The only time you'd may possibly get a spike would be if the memeroy in use exceeded your free system ram while playing and then it stores a page file.
I'm perma demoing myself, once had a 5 hour long demo which was just over 600meg a few years ago on a very old rig when I fell asleep spectating a public server. Never experienced performance issues. Biggest test cs can throw at your gpu is smoke particles, end of story.
I feel a (very) light lagg, and it annoys me when I record myself. Maybe the SS-plug-in would be helpful, but to record yourself during in-game on a public server is a bit over the top. Things are going good now, cheaters are getting banned and admins that don't record are getting warned - punished.
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Demo recording should have no impact what so ever on your fps. Sorry gotta dispell that rumor. Its a cs urban legend.
Recording and encoding is done at a very simple layer of the engine, simply logging a set of inputs and data streams into a text file which is then compiled in a rudimentary way by the cpu - in terms of run time your looking at less than a fraction of a percent of your cpu. The only time you'd may possibly get a spike would be if the memeroy in use exceeded your free system ram while playing and then it stores a page file.
I'm perma demoing myself, once had a 5 hour long demo which was just over 600meg a few years ago on a very old rig when I fell asleep spectating a public server. Never experienced performance issues. Biggest test cs can throw at your gpu is smoke particles, end of story.
I can understand this, but my CPU usage running applications or even watching videos on youtube goes 100% constantly. And yes I do feel spikes.
Update drivers?
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They all are up to date pretty much, so it's the problem with graphics card. I'm not even surprised, the laptop is quite old and not to mention I shouldn't be running games I have lol So all I need is a new good gaming pc, that will probably take some time tho.
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Many cheaters only know how to put cheat but don't know how to find their own demo.
Many new admins do not know even to record a demo, so this will confuse them a lot, and will discourage them to progress.
For now your suggestion is rejected, ty for it.