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Title: [DENIED]didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 01:51:27 pm
hi, have been banned from r4h for wh, while i'm admin, LOL.
I would like to see the demo,
Name : PowerheaD<33!
Date & Time : 12/10/2012
Admin : r4h
Reason : Wallhack
SteamID : STEAM_0:1:47033549
Thankyou, r4h, I wanna see your demo, let's do it brah.
And @HS : Are admins allowed to ban other admins? Mustn't they first Report him and if you guys take a decision he can ban him? W0w nice experienced admin you got..
Title: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Big Bob on December 10, 2012, 01:51:27 pm
Thank you for posting an Unban Request. Shortly the Emperors shall review your unban request. Please in the meantime have patience and DO NOT ban evade (which means; you cannot play in any of our servers while banned), otherwise your request will be automatically DENIED. In the meantime read clearly the Unban Request Rules (http://www.ambrosia-servers.com/community/index.php?topic=12.0) and check the Banlist (http://www.spekbinder.nl/banlist/) to see the information on your ban. If the admin doesn't provide a demo or comment within 48h after you posted this unban request, then you'll go free and you'll be unbanned.

Regards,
The Ambrosian Emperors.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: r4h on December 10, 2012, 01:53:44 pm
Here is your demo http://www.mediafire.com/?8d50jrrebxnt3im (http://www.mediafire.com/?8d50jrrebxnt3im)

Its about 10 mins of u clearly using wallhack, demo speaks for itself.

It is my understanding u are on trial therefore u r not an admin. ive been an admin on here for over 7 years so dont bring my credability into this. You clearly cheat, i was recording u for 15mins and u didnt even realize.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 01:58:35 pm
Here is your demo http://www.mediafire.com/?8d50jrrebxnt3im (http://www.mediafire.com/?8d50jrrebxnt3im)

Its about 10 mins of u clearly using wallhack, demo speaks for itself.
gtg atm for a ride, cuu later haha, please guys download n watch and post yo opinion
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ~ SkillZ on December 10, 2012, 02:19:07 pm
All i got to say is "Obv wh". Pre fireing (or w/e) he aim at players from wall, and specially when he had AWP.


And i think you should report and not ban him.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Burzum on December 10, 2012, 02:22:07 pm
the most weird frag is the 1st round when Powerhead switches to Terro team, when he kills Heisenberg

more admins will give their opinion and also Powerhead must explain some frags on his demo
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ~ SkillZ on December 10, 2012, 02:24:35 pm
the most weird frag is the 1st round he becomes Terr, when he kills Heisenberg

more admins will give their opinion and also Powerhead must explain some frags on his demo
yep, also that he first shoot him from wall and then he kill him
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: pure love on December 10, 2012, 02:28:21 pm
strange gameplay
with awp you shoot a split second before the enemy appear
As Burzum said first kill
last kill
prefire with 5 players in game always in the right direction
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 02:56:09 pm
Just a question, don't you guys sometimes shoot to wallbang even tho there ain't any sounds? Don't you guys check every corner and where people are? Don't you play with sounds? Don't you hear when somebody picks the C4? Well, I was hearing it all, I always play with sounds.

And if you say it's a strange gameplay, well, that's my style.
And just to tell you something, r4h, DEMO SHOWS NOTHING mate :)
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: siena on December 10, 2012, 02:57:49 pm
hack 


done.

need a bustmovie ?

pm me ! ^^
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 02:59:45 pm
hack 


done.

need a bustmovie ?

pm me ! ^^
:D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D::D
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: el_dazza on December 10, 2012, 03:09:44 pm
I'm going with no WH here.

People who say his first kill is dodgy, the enemy is running towards him and it's clear to hear that.

The bit near the end when he's aiming at heisenberg - his team-mate to his left behind the boxes was shooting in that direction so ther's obviously an enemy there. He ducks around looking for the guy but he's hidden behind thw wall - it makes it look like he's tracking him when really it's the only area the enemy could be in.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ~ SkillZ on December 10, 2012, 03:10:59 pm
Just a question, don't you guys sometimes shoot to wallbang even tho there ain't any sounds? Don't you guys check every corner and where people are? Don't you play with sounds? Don't you hear when somebody picks the C4? Well, I was hearing it all, I always play with sounds.

And if you say it's a strange gameplay, well, that's my style.
And just to tell you something, r4h, DEMO SHOWS NOTHING mate :)
It does show wh.

And haven't you been banned at e* for wh too? (If u don't know what community i mean, PM me.. i wont advertise.)
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: r4h on December 10, 2012, 03:13:29 pm
Your playing with 120 ping, looking thru walls running directly to players knowing where they are, pre firing before you see them. Not checking places, running then walk as u get close to enemy. U say the demo shows nothing lol, shows u wh. Anyway higher staff will b the judge.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 03:16:36 pm
Your playing with 120 ping, looking thru walls running directly to players knowing where they are, pre firing before you see them. Not checking places, running then walk as u get close to enemy. U say the demo shows nothing lol, shows u wh. Anyway higher staff will b the judge.
So ya let me tell you, when he was at ladder, if you can see my friend was beside me, shooting there and getting hit, so I scoped there, didn't find anybody, scoped at the other place at the ladder or stairs, didn't find anybody so he SHOULD be in-between, so I shot, idk if I hit or not, then he showed himself and I shot him, easy, then I took the m4a1 after the round. and started the new round, what's so wrong in that..
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Fisu on December 10, 2012, 03:20:02 pm


U get killed in fîrst part but how u know his coming ? u can say u heard his steps but u saw him comming even he was at the door then u stoped and went back... u aimed already on him.. and many other points where u show ur WH ,.. sory this Demo shows WH to me .. anyway waiting for other opinions
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: B on December 10, 2012, 03:23:52 pm
HE NO WH. HE NOOB. HE NO BRAIN.

Next time I will moderate you for capslocking and worthless post I haven't seen for a long time. Watch demo, post objective post.
[Ed]
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ~ SkillZ on December 10, 2012, 03:37:02 pm
HE NO WH. HE NOOB. HE NO BRAIN.
You noob too.

Warned for off topic and insulting message, I couldn't care if it doesn't mean insulting to you, be respectful to anyone here and importantly stay on the topic! [Ed]
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Konvict on December 10, 2012, 03:56:00 pm
Seems wh to me.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Fisu on December 10, 2012, 04:12:57 pm
HE NO WH. HE NOOB. HE NO BRAIN.



HAHhAHAHAHAHA ROFL so bad  HAHAHA He No Brain  Lol ? :D warn him .:D



Anyway Common other opinions needed ? 90 % say he has wh AND he has wh..
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Cap$0l is the real KAWAIII on December 10, 2012, 04:18:26 pm
well i watched the demo and he is Wh but i support him unban or lower his ban to 2 months or so. every1 needs a second chance
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ~RoN on December 10, 2012, 04:25:06 pm
lol the guy that comes to him he was running the demo is clear my opinion.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: ChiKo on December 10, 2012, 04:33:22 pm
ive been an admin on here for over 7 years so dont bring my credability into this.

How u can be 7 years admin here ? ambrosia is just 2 years open explain.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Fisu on December 10, 2012, 04:35:27 pm
lol the guy that comes to him he was running the demo is clear my opinion.

Hmm how can he hear him he was at doors Powerhead already stopped and went back and aimed on him.. anyway watch the Demo not only first part :D


:P:P
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 04:43:44 pm
lol the guy that comes to him he was running the demo is clear my opinion.

Hmm how can he hear him he was at doors Powerhead already stopped and went back and aimed on him.. anyway watch the Demo not only first part :D


:P:P
Do you have a brain? I stopped and went back you know why? To aim at him, or should I hear him and go rush at him? Use your mind dude.

Speak with respect please!
[Ed]
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: BLACKEYES WSUP? on December 10, 2012, 04:47:06 pm
I watched the demo and have to say that, there are some pretty obvious wallhack parts;-)
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Grmbl on December 10, 2012, 05:04:20 pm
Congrats r4h u actually caught 2 hackers, to bad u only banned one
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Phenomenal on December 10, 2012, 05:16:09 pm
I will check the demo tmw and ill edit my post with final decision.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Ed on December 10, 2012, 05:23:45 pm
ive been an admin on here for over 7 years so dont bring my credability into this.

How u can be 7 years admin here ? ambrosia is just 2 years open explain.

I was thinking the same thing, be careful on what you post please.

About the demo, I'll watch it if I have the time.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Sir Kellys Eye on December 10, 2012, 05:36:30 pm
Do you have a brain? I stopped and went back you know why? To aim at him, or should I hear him and go rush at him? Use your mind dude.

Speak to others with respect. I have not seen any at all from you yet.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Razzi on December 10, 2012, 07:11:44 pm
If your admin on the same server , then he cannot ban you but if your admin on surf for e.g. he is allowed to ban you.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: r4h on December 10, 2012, 07:15:14 pm
Ambrosia is not 2 years old. I was made admin 6/7 years ago on ambrosia by St. George. I imagine none of u will remember him as u haven't been here since then. A few will, Ezza, tasha, shark etc, please don't call me a liar. Anyway don't want diverge from this guy wh. O and cpl boob, I banned ther other 1 be4 :p
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Ed on December 10, 2012, 07:28:44 pm
If your admin on the same server , then he cannot ban you but if your admin on surf for e.g. he is allowed to ban you.


He is a trial admin.

Ambrosia is not 2 years old. I was made admin 6/7 years ago on ambrosia by St. George. I imagine none of u will remember him as u haven't been here since then. A few will, Ezza, tasha, shark etc, please don't call me a liar. Anyway don't want diverge from this guy wh. O and cpl boob, I banned ther other 1 be4 :p

I know who St.George is and no Ambrosia is about 2- 3 years old since I very well remember Forum creation and me joining in January about less than a month after it's creation. I believe you are talking about Ambrosia Assasins can't remember proper name.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 07:30:09 pm
Could you please stay on-topic?
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: 'PL' on December 10, 2012, 07:40:36 pm
Powerhead is right.
Even if he is trial, you must report him and not take any action from the moment of him being the object of your interest.. Official admin rules@

I respect your loyalistic approach, and i justify the "survivor" type of speak-through however, would be really good to comment on the demo so i can establish any plausible "weird viewpoints", except as burzum said on the first round.
1 minute isn't enough to convince me ;D
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Fisu on December 10, 2012, 07:56:29 pm


Im using my mind very well Powerhead.. " no way u cant hear him running so far -.- u saw him ( Thrugh wall ) and aimed ad him and tried but failed to kill him "

I dont hate u or something but in this Demo there are a few parts that shows wh...
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Powerhead<33! on December 10, 2012, 08:04:15 pm
LOOOL dude you serious? You didn't hear him? Lol k.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: WIDE AWAKE ~ h1x? on December 10, 2012, 08:26:16 pm
That's shows some wallhack , but not sure that power using wallhack  :o  ???
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: r4h on December 10, 2012, 08:37:17 pm
5/6 ambrosia admins all say wallhack
That's enuf for me, there's no way u can call that sound. Was it sound when T is in ct spawn and ur dd and u turn round and run directly to him not checking anywhere and instantly shoot him ct steps @ spawn?

Anyway lock it til a decision is made please
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Ed on December 10, 2012, 09:49:24 pm
I've seen the demo and that is walhack for me. Too many things give you away, first - the first round, where you kill the guy coming out from the pillar and without knowing that another guy run around through long bomb site through ct spawn, you did had a aim lock on him and you kept specing behind you to the wall as he was closing in from CT spawn, you went to kill him. You wouldn't have had any idea of him being there. The rest speaks for it self. Second thing is that you think that elki was cheating, he has been playing for a long time here and I have never suspected him even seeing him continues times, what made it more obvious, since Wilkin killed you, you also reported him to be watched, from single kill which in my opinion was nicely aimed hs as he was coming out from the door as a back up plan.

Look what ever you say, demo speaks for it self and don't you dare putting this on the sound, that would be biggest bullshit I ever heard. Thank you and pardon my french.

As for the topic I believe High staff needs to give the final answer.
Topic locked.
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Wheezy on December 11, 2012, 03:05:28 am
As I watched the demo, I gotta agree with others and for me it's a WH too  ::)

Unban panel will now decide whether unban you or you will stay banned!
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Burzum on December 11, 2012, 11:24:03 am
i rewatched demo again this morning with a hot cup of coffee

in whole demo there are ONLY 2 weird frags:

*1st round, when he kills wILSON
*when Powerhead is switched to Terr and he kills Heisenberg
about Heisenberg he explained already he aim at there coz there is a teammate shooting in that direction also, its reasonable

the rest of demo is clean in my opinion
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: N4nDu on December 11, 2012, 02:35:25 pm
NOTE: I asked PowerheaD to open this topic, don't blame him for re-opening it. Thank you.
Powerhead asked me to unlock only for you post here.- Burzum

The demo does not show any type of cheats utilized in this period of time. First, it's a bad map and about 6-8 people were online at that time in the server, which means PowerheaD cannot be judged with these criterias. Second, everyone complaining mostly about the first kill, let me explain it for him. wILSON or whatever his name was, comes out of the door, running directly in PowerheaD's  direction and therefore everyone should be able to hear him running. I personally could hear him making 3 to 4 steps before PowerheaD pre-fires him and I would have done the same in that situation. I can't see anything suspicious in the middle of the demo really, correct me if I'm wrong and ask me for an explanation if you have any question. Last kill, it is suspicious, I can't deny that. However, removing Lucia Hallucination next time would make things clear. Lucia Hallucination is the worst tool to be used while recording demos. The squares cover everything and no one is/will be able to check if any body part is visible for the accused player. In my humble opinion, hacks were not used in this demo, or at least no one can clearly say if there are any cheats or not and therefore he should get unbanned until anything new happens in this concern.

I know what I'm talking about as I have been an admin in several communities on many servers, feel free to ask me anything.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Sir Kellys Eye on December 11, 2012, 08:08:06 pm
I think one thing here is plain to see and I have seen it so many times before...

It seems to be that players think other players / admins are 'not experienced'. The admin that banned is hugely experienced, having played competitively many years ago in major leagues. He has been an admin longer than a lot of the people here have played CS.

Let's not jump to conclusions regarding experience.

Let's see what our panel concludes...  :-\
Title: Re: didn't know that admins can ban admins
Post by: Wheezy on December 11, 2012, 08:55:25 pm
As the majority of unban panel voted as you being cheater I there fore deny your unban request

DENIED!